learning methods…

 

Dave Black wrote:

The purpose of a seminary, in my opinion, is not to disseminate information. Most of what we learn in lectures can be gotten in one fourth the time by reading books. Now here is a very curious thing. I found that most of my college and seminary professors used the "you sit still and I instill" approach to teaching. We students would sometimes describe the process in less flattering terms: "One end gets numb and the other end gets dumb." The access of knowledge over the past 20 years via the Internet has made strict lecturing redundant in many cases. The classroom, I think, could better be utilized for discussion of what the students have already read prior to coming to class.

 

The two points I took out of this were:

(this one made me laugh… but I know it is true) - professors used the "you sit still and I instill" approach to teaching. We students would sometimes describe the process in less flattering terms: "One end gets numb and the other end gets dumb."

(I love this idea for learning) - The classroom, I think, could better be utilized for discussion of what the students have already read prior to coming to class.

 

Alan Knox has a series on his blog called SCRIPTURE AS WE LIVE IT.   It is always interesting to see what verse he picks out and then interprets into how we LIVE it versus what the verse is actually saying.  Alan says:

The purpose of this feature is to get us to think about what Scripture says compared to how we actually live and what our traditions teach. Since I’m very interested in ecclesiology, many of these passages will deal with the church. But I will also include other Scriptures as well. I would love to see alot of interaction on these short posts.

 

Today’s verse  takes on Colossians 2:20-23. 

This is how Alan presents it on his blog:

If with Christ you died to the elemental spirits of the world, why, as if you were still alive in the world, do you why don’t you submit to regulations — “Do not handle, Do not taste, Do not touch” (referring to things that all perish as they are used) — according to human precepts and teachings? These have indeed an appearance of wisdom in promoting self-made religion godliness and asceticism and severity to the body, but and they are of no great value in stopping the indulgence of the flesh. (Colossians 2:20-23 re-mix)

 

In this format in can be hard to read, so here it is without the strike outs:

This is how we Christians seem to live out this verse:

If with Christ you died to the elemental spirits of the world, why don’t you submit to regulations — “Do not handle, Do not taste, Do not touch” (referring to things that all perish as they are used) — according to human precepts and teachings? These have wisdom in promoting godliness and asceticism and severity to the body,  and they are of  great value in stopping the indulgence of the flesh. (Colossians 2:20-23 re-mix)

This is how the verse reads in the bible:

If with Christ you died to the elemental spirits of the world, why, as if you were still alive in the world, do you submit to regulations— “Do not handle, Do not taste, Do not touch” (referring to things that all perish as they are used)—according to human precepts and teachings? These have indeed an appearance of wisdom in promoting self-made religion and asceticism and severity to the body, but they are of no value in stopping the indulgence of the flesh.

 

 

Makes one think…. how do we live out this scripture?  Hmmmm????

the heart of God for his children

 

***this is a list of verses that a friend of mine received about children and their place in the gathering of the church… ***

Please read the attached verses and see God's heart for HIS children down through the ages - and in particular their place in the assembly of the saints.
Prayerfully consider what these verses are teaching - and may we be doers of the Word and not hearers only.
Blessings, N****

 

Gen. 18:19 For I have chosen him , so that he will direct his children and his household after him to keep the way of the LORD by doing what is right and just, so that the LORD will bring about for Abraham what he has promised him.”

Deut. 4:9  ¶     Only be careful, and watch yourselves closely so that you do not forget the things your eyes have seen or let them slip from your heart as long as you live. Teach them to your children and to their children after them.

Deut. 4:10 Remember the day you stood before the LORD your God at Horeb, when he said to me, “Assemble the people before me to hear my words so that they may learn to revere me as long as they live in the land and may teach them to their children.”

Deut. 6:4  ¶     Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.

Deut. 6:5 Love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength.

Deut. 6:6 These commandments that I give you today are to be upon your hearts.
Deut. 6:7 Impress them on your children. Talk about them when you sit at home and when you walk along the road, when you lie down and when you get up.
Deut. 6:8 Tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads.
Deut. 6:9 Write them on the doorframes of your houses and on your gates.

Lev. 10:14 But you and your sons and your daughters may eat the breast that was waved and the thigh that was presented. Eat them in a ceremonially clean place; they have been given to you and your children as your share of the Israelites’ fellowship offerings. Lev. 10:15 The thigh that was presented and the breast that was waved must be brought with the fat portions of the offerings made by fire, to be waved before the LORD as a wave offering. This will be the regular share for you and your children, as the LORD has commanded.”

Deut. 31:12 Assemble the people—men, women and children, and the aliens living in your towns—so they can listen and learn to fear the LORD your God and follow carefully all the words of this law.

Deut. 31:13 Their children, who do not know this law, must hear it and learn to fear the LORD your God as long as you live in the land you are crossing the Jordan to possess.”

Deut. 32:46 he said to them, “Take to heart all the words I have solemnly declared to you this day, so that you may command your children to obey carefully all the words of this law.

Josh. 8:35 There was not a word of all that Moses had commanded that Joshua did not read to the whole assembly of Israel, including the women and children, and the aliens who lived among them.

2Chr. 20:13  All the men of Judah, with their wives and children and little ones, stood there before the LORD.

Ezra 10:1    While Ezra was praying and confessing, weeping and throwing himself down before the house of God, a large crowd of Israelites—men, women and children—gathered around him. They too wept bitterly.

Psa. 8:2     From the lips of children and infants
        you have ordained praise
    because of your enemies,
        to silence the foe and the avenger.

Psa. 34:11  Come, my children, listen to me;
        I will teach you the fear of the LORD.

Psa. 78:4     We will not hide them from their children;
        we will tell the next generation
    the praiseworthy deeds of the LORD,
        his power, and the wonders he has done.

Psa. 78:5     He decreed statutes for Jacob
        and established the law in Israel,
    which he commanded our forefathers
        to teach their children,

Psa. 78:6     so the next generation would know them,
        even the children yet to be born,
        and they in turn would tell their children.

Psa. 90:16     May your deeds be shown to your servants,
        your splendor to their children.

Psa. 102:28 The children of your servants will live in your presence;
        their descendants will be established before you.”

Psa. 112:2  His children will be mighty in the land;
        the generation of the upright will be blessed.

Is. 30:1     “Woe to the obstinate children,”
        declares the LORD, “to those who carry out plans that are not mine, forming an alliance, but not by my Spirit,
        heaping sin upon sin;

Is. 30:9  These are rebellious people, deceitful children,
children unwilling to listen to the LORD’S instruction.

Is. 59:21 “As for me, this is my covenant with them,” says the LORD. “My Spirit, who is on you, and my words that I have put in your mouth will not depart from your mouth, or from the mouths of your children, or from the mouths of their descendants from this time on and forever,” says the LORD.

Joel 2:16     Gather the people,
        consecrate the assembly;
    bring together the elders,
        gather the children,
        those nursing at the breast.
    Let the bridegroom leave his room
        and the bride her chamber.

Matt. 11:25  At that time Jesus said, “I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.

Mark 10:13  People were bringing little children to Jesus to have him touch them, but the disciples rebuked them.

Mark 10:14 When Jesus saw this, he was indignant. He said to them, “Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these.

Mark 10:16 And he took the children in his arms, put his hands on them and blessed them.

Matt. 21:15 But when the chief priests and the teachers of the law saw the wonderful things he did and the children shouting in the temple area, “Hosanna to the Son of David,” they were indignant.

Matt. 21:16  “Do you hear what these children are saying?” they asked him. “Yes,” replied Jesus, “have you never read, “ ‘From the lips of children and infants you have ordained praise’?”

Matt. 23:37 “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing.

Eph. 6:4  Fathers, do not exasperate your children; instead, bring them up in the training and instruction of the Lord.

Col. 3:20 Children, obey your parents in everything, for this pleases the Lord.

Col. 3:21  Fathers, do not embitter your children, or they will become discouraged.

1Th. 2:7 but we were gentle among you, like a mother caring for her little children.

1Th. 2:11 For you know that we dealt with each of you as a father deals with his own children,

1Tim. 3:4 He must manage his own family well and see that his children obey him with proper respect.

1Tim. 3:12  A deacon must be the husband of but one wife and must manage his children and his household well.

3John 4 I have no greater joy than to hear that my children are walking in the truth.